click on this link...it gives another person's problems and concerns with shamrock and palmer marine...

i have no axe to grind with this guy palmer,the idea here is to keep other's from being cheated and lied to,just as these guys have...be very careful if you're considering the defiance line of boats-palmer is involved with the group of investors who purchased the line-with the dealings in the past,i would expect to see and read more of this type of problems...

http://www.sportfishermen.com/board/f17/shamrock-boats-bankrupted-68903.html